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Compliance ski sidecut shape to deflection

In a turn ski put on edge and bend.  The most effective turn is when ski put on snow with all length of edge and drive like on rails. For this it is necessary that deflection of ski was in accordance with shape of sidecut. Or vice versa. Anyway, it is desirable to match shapes of sidecut and sag.

24fc6a5d_mdTo be honest, until recently, I believed that such problems do not exist now, manufacturers long time ago optimized the characteristics of the ski. It is only necessary to be able to use them. hgAs wellknown skis have sidecuts in shape of “hourglass”. When lean the ski clings to slope with the widest parts on the toe and tail and under the forces of the skier and Nature starts to sag relsy_webuntil  entire length of edge put on slope and then go in an arc like on rails. If you need to turn more strong  it is necessary to angle ski more. That is, I believed, a shape of sidecut is a sequence of great experience of ski manufacturers, and the characteristics of bending of ski  should easily allow the ski evenly lie on the edge.

Unfortunately, the field tests on cold ( -10 C) ice described in note forced to doubt about primary role of sidecut shape. I had to think about not less importance of characteristics of the ski deflection. May be the deflection is not simply “serves” sidecut but  significantly affects the “railed” curve. Indeed, let’s consider ones more above process, especially on ice. imagesAfter lean of ski edges on toe and heel clings to slope and ski start to bend, but in accordance with its natural deflection. Then it all depends on what part of  edge touches the ice first. angles Ideally, the ski should lie down on the ice once at all length of edge (so shape of sidecut should strictly conform to the natural sag). And this should happen quickly. On the ice an unstable state when the ski supports only to the toe and the heel is very limited in time. If ski do not lay to slope fast it begin to slide. And if edge begin to slide on ice it hard to stop it.

So such abstract considerations about the best edge grip on ice lead to assumption that shapes of sudecut and sag should be in good accordance. It could be tested in some particular case. I have a measured shape of ski deflection (Atomic FIS SL).


This is shape of free deflection similar to described above in the hypothetical turn on ice. Ski relied on toe and tail at the widest parts of the ski, and to boot has been applied the load 19.2 kg. Shape of sidecut is also no secret. Atomic Redster FIS SL 15/16

Therefore, we can determine whether in this particular case, ski which bent in a natural way under the force of about 20 kg could lie on a  slope on all edge at some angle of leaning. To do this one need calculate the necessary shapes of sidecut for such bent ski for different angles of leaning. Then select the angle, which lead to the width of the toe and the heel as on “real” ski and compare the calculated and the actual shapes of the sidecut.

Here is the result:Ski_sidecut

Thus, ski bent (in the present case sag is equal to 31 mm) under a force of about 20 kg leads to a leaning angle of 52 degrees. The angle is defined by touching the slope of the widest parts of the ski at the toe and heel. But the real ski with such bend could not lay on slope because real edges (especially front part from bindings to toe of ski) will touch the surface earlier then calculated ideal edge. In principle, it is good that the real edge touch surface before and not after the ideal edge as it give a chance for edge grip. But we can not talk about any “rail” with such shape of sag. So the real dynamics depend on flexibility of the ski, that is, how easy it change natural sag to needed shape.  This necessary change of sag also can be calculated, and looks exactly like this:Ski_bend

The shape of calculated deflection is indicated in blue. In fact, it is so differ form natural sag (marked in red), that it is hardly possible to make any conclusion about the possibility of so-bend ski. Most likely it will be accompanied by additional stresses in different directions, which will pull down the ski from the arc.

In general, one can make a clear conclusion, but for a tiny special case. For ski bend under load of 20 kg the optimal lean angle for ski Atomic Redster FIS SL is 52 degrees. In this case on hard ice it is impossible to have pure rail-like arc in a turn. Front part of edge will grip but with grindings.

So it can be concluded that Atomic did not consider necessaty of sidecut shape to be in accordance with the deflection of ski. But not from this note, it could be noticed earlier in note “ Atomic Redster FIS SL 15/16, become stiffer “, where can be clearly seen, that the deflection of the new model has changed. While sidecut shape remained the same.

(Maybe the way it should be 🙂 )

Vadim Nikitin DigInfo.ruVadim Nikitin




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